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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Kolar)
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Subject: Re: wintrump news 1-B: format of "time-zone" line

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tom Grelinger) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Christopher Kolar)
>writes:

>>I'm trying to make some changes in the config file for Trumpet News 1.0 rB,
>>but I am having difficulty with the time-zone parameter.  I tried the one that
>>I use to set the zone with Eudora (CST6CDT), but it resulted in the
>>aforementioned (in another post) inability to post due to an error parsing the
>>date header.

>>Is the only thing that I need do put "-0600" in that part of the config
>>folder, or is there other specialised information that needs go in the
>>time-zone line as well.

>Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I got the impression that while we
>(most of the U.S.) are on daylight savings time, we are only 5 hours west of
>Universal Time, so the syntax would be -0500.  After the last Saturday in
>October, you would then change it back to -0600 assuming of course that you
>are in the Central Time Zone like I am.

Hey, just one problem at a time!

Thanks Tom,

--chris


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Flynn)
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Subject: Re: I need Help on winsock programming

In article <2rf1ov$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Robin Davies) writes:
>directory. However, you may want to check out Sunsite (I don't have the
>address handy) which carries the microsoft docs plus quite a bit more. Use

One address, in the US is sunsite.unc.edu - There are also sunsites in the UK
and Japan, but I don't know their content.

Brian

Brian Flynn
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From: [e-mail] (James R. Garven)
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Subject: SLIP access in New York and Philadelphia

Will someone please email to me information about cheap, yet reliable
Internet SLIP/PPP access in New York and Philadelphia?  I have colleagues
who lives and works in both cities and would like very much to be able to use
Windows (winsock-based) Internet clients such as Eudora and Mosaic.

Thank you.

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From [e-mail] Fri May 23 12:38:41 1994
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Subject: BOOTP ... What is it and how does it work?



Subject says it all ... thanks!

-Sean
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Subject: Re: BOOTP ... What is it and how does it work?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Sean Williams) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Sean Williams)
>Subject: BOOTP ... What is it and how does it work?
>Date: 23 May 1994 16:38:41 -0400



>Subject says it all ... thanks!

BOOTP (Short for "Bootstrap Protocol") is a means by which a network TCP/IP
station can obtain it's IP address when starting up.  That is to say, there
needs be no indication of a station's IP address in it's files (system or
config) if it uses bootp.

Bootp was designed to be, at the simplest level possible, a better RARP
(Reverse Address Resolution Protocol).  RARP originated to support mostly
UNIX-based diskless stations; for example, X Window Workstations with no hard
drive local to them.

Bootp works basically by a machine sending out a broadcast request to the
network when starting up (or, in trumpet's case when the TCP Stack starts up..
which is not necessarily when the machine starts up ;-) saying "For <my
*ethernet* address> does anyone know My IP address?" (well, it doesn't
actually *say* that, exactly :)  At this point, if there is a bootp server on
your network, that server attempts to look up the specified ethernet address
in it's bootptab file (in the case of UN*X).  If it finds it, it will in turn
reply that for the specified ethernet address, the IP address is
XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX.

Bootp can reportedly go across routers.  Unfortunately, I cannot yet get it to
go across *my* routers :(  RARP cannot (since RARP is a ?link? layer
protocol)... thus, why bootp is a better beast.

I hope this helps, any additional questions, feel free to ask...

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Tommi

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The above are my thoughts; if you don't like them, don't read them!
From [e-mail] Mon May 23 11:50:33 1994
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Subject: SPRY


Any body tried or got any info on the new products from SPRY
(Internet-in-a-box,etc) Just wanted some idea if they are
worth a looksee

Thanks

Darren
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From: [e-mail] (Kurt Tiedtke)
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Subject: Re: Ahrens' VoiceCHAT 1.0 - Anyone Got It Running?

In article <2rlomi$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Ari Ollikainen) writes:

> What audio encoding does it use? Since the developer of IVC 1.0 hasn't seen
> fit to answer my original question, could one of you post *ANY* technically
> descriptive material (like a README) that comes with IVC 1.0?

It seems to use a custom encoding scheme, unlike the Unix and Mac
programs which use VAT.  I haven't seen anything in the documentation
that specifically describes the encoding method.
IVC buffers up to a minute of audio of one speaker at a time, then
sends it, limiting its usefulness for real-time conversations.  The
Unix and Mac programs do it in pseudo-realtime.


Kurt Tiedtke
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Subject: Re: WinSock Compliance Testing


>A validation suite is mentioned in the Winsock spec. it's called WSAT
>(Windows Sockets API Tester) and is apparently available by sending
>email to [e-mail] .  Haven't got it yet though, the ftp
>address they gave me (in the automaic mail reply) doesn't respond.

Last time I inquired about WSAT, I got a whole load of doubletalk.
1st, they said it was for Winsock implementors, not developers using
winsock.  Then, they said that certain tests were "supposed to fail", and
it took an expert to properly interpret the results, and more condes-
cending obfuscation along that line, but still no specifics.
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Menkhus)
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Subject: Login.cmd, my username prompt is #

Hi,

I  have been using Trumpet winsock for a while and I
can't get the login script to waitfor a "#" prompt and
then reply with a password.  Is there a way to wait for
this character and then reply with a password?

I use a DEC terminal server and we have it setup to
give a # after you connect.  My chat script never seems
to pick this up.

Here's what I have, that doesn't work:
#
# initialize modem
#
trace
output at\r
output atz\r
input 25 OK
#
# set modem to indicate DCD
#
output at&c1\r
input 10 OK\n
#
# send phone number
#
output atdt1234567\r
#
input 30 9600
#
wait 10
output \n
#
#  wait for the server prompt
#  wait for the "#" character
input 10 #
output areallyneatpasswordgoeshere\n
input 5 Local>\13
output c\20slip\n
#
#  ping a well known host locally...  our slip server won't work
#  for a while
#
exec pingw tsc
#
# now we are finished.
#

Here is what happens:
Trumpet Winsock Version 1.0 Rev A
some stuff deleted.......................
Executing script d:\qvt\socket\worksock\login.cmd.  Type <esc> to abort
SLIP DISABLED
at
OK
at&c1
OK
atdt1234567
CONNECT 9600
Script aborted
SLIP ENABLED
Manually dialing.
AFTER LOGGING IN, TYPE THE <ESC> KEY TO RETURN TO NORMAL SLIP PROCESSING.
SLIP DISABLED

#  <<<<<<<<<<<< ---------------- I turn on manual login and take it from here

some stuff deleted

Local> c slip
Local -561- Starting SLIP datalink sessionSLIP ENABLED

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From [e-mail] Mon May 23 09:54:51 1994
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From: Martin Bickford <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WINSOCK for DOS?
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Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 16:54:51 -0700 (PDT)
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JSB's Virtual Socket Library has extended the concept of Windows
Sockets beyond Windows to other operating systems.

JSB's Virtual Socket Library provides a way for WinSock
developers to develop on DOS, OS/2, UNIX, NetWare, as well as
Windows platforms.  WinSock and non-WinSock TCP/IP stacks,
IPX/SPX and DECnet are all supported through the VSL API.  Like
WinSock, the VSL provides a BSD 4.3 sockets-style API.

DOS stacks which are currently supported by the VSL are: 3Com
3+Open TCP, Beame & Whiteside TCP/IP, D-Link TCP/IP for DOS,
Digital PATHWORKS for DOS, FTP PC/TCP, HP ARPA, Locus TCP/IP,
Microsoft LAN Manager TCP/IP, Novell LAN WorkPlace for DOS, Sun
PC-NFS, Ungermann-Bass, Wollongong PathWay Access, and Wollongong
WIN/TCP for DOS.

If you would like a white-paper or programmer's guide, email
[e-mail] or call me at [phone].

martyb
JSB

        Does anyone know if there is a DOS version of WINSOCK available?

Thanks
-Rajiv